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		<title>Comment on Why Offering Discounts Through Social Media Is Bad Business for Nonprofit Organizations by Ken Mayes (@kenmayes)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Mayes (@kenmayes)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 03:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often thought the same thing.  More so for Groupon like offers, where the institution only get 1/4 of it&#039;s ticket price, over discounts institutions may offer on their own.  Interesting enough, I have offered Foursquare and Facebook check-in offers with very poor results. 

I recently spoke with a  zoo director who said that their admission is ~$20.00 for an adult but the average price they receive per an adult is closer to $8.00, due to coupons, free days, and frequent visits from members. 

One of the main reasons I think museums (ZAMs) offer discounts is because attendance is an measure of &quot;success.&quot;  We are always asked how many people did you see last year but never asked how many artifacts did you acquire. 

What is your take on selling memberships under the &quot;if you visit twice a year, it pays for itself&quot; statement?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often thought the same thing.  More so for Groupon like offers, where the institution only get 1/4 of it&#8217;s ticket price, over discounts institutions may offer on their own.  Interesting enough, I have offered Foursquare and Facebook check-in offers with very poor results. </p>
<p>I recently spoke with a  zoo director who said that their admission is ~$20.00 for an adult but the average price they receive per an adult is closer to $8.00, due to coupons, free days, and frequent visits from members. </p>
<p>One of the main reasons I think museums (ZAMs) offer discounts is because attendance is an measure of &#8220;success.&#8221;  We are always asked how many people did you see last year but never asked how many artifacts did you acquire. </p>
<p>What is your take on selling memberships under the &#8220;if you visit twice a year, it pays for itself&#8221; statement?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Offering Discounts Through Social Media Is Bad Business for Nonprofit Organizations by colleendilen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[colleendilen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 20:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jasper. Thanks for your comment! 

While I generally believe that it is a bad practice to promote a broad discounting strategy, I agree that there may be appropriate opportunities to selectively deploy coupons based on a number of considerations. Even in these instances, I still think it&#039;s important to keep in mind that if an organization uses a discounting strategy to measure the ROI of its social media, then it still risks devaluing its own content. It is hard to target a discount with surgical precision - and the very connected nature of social media invites sharing and pass-along that may creep beyond the intended recipients (folks will &quot;like&quot; you for the discount, though they aren&#039;t evangelists for your cause).  

Instead of coupons, I tend to favor &quot;value adds&quot; or other premiums that reward loyal social media followers with unique engagement opportunities and/or experiences.  Much like coupons, these are easily trackable and serve the positive function of engendering additional storytelling opportunities for key evangelists (but don&#039;t devalue admission).  In the end, I think that a lot of the outcome depends on positioning.  If you frame the coupon as a reward for engagement, then it may be perceived differently than as a pure discount - especially if it&#039;s a one-time experiment to measure ROI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jasper. Thanks for your comment! </p>
<p>While I generally believe that it is a bad practice to promote a broad discounting strategy, I agree that there may be appropriate opportunities to selectively deploy coupons based on a number of considerations. Even in these instances, I still think it&#8217;s important to keep in mind that if an organization uses a discounting strategy to measure the ROI of its social media, then it still risks devaluing its own content. It is hard to target a discount with surgical precision &#8211; and the very connected nature of social media invites sharing and pass-along that may creep beyond the intended recipients (folks will &#8220;like&#8221; you for the discount, though they aren&#8217;t evangelists for your cause).  </p>
<p>Instead of coupons, I tend to favor &#8220;value adds&#8221; or other premiums that reward loyal social media followers with unique engagement opportunities and/or experiences.  Much like coupons, these are easily trackable and serve the positive function of engendering additional storytelling opportunities for key evangelists (but don&#8217;t devalue admission).  In the end, I think that a lot of the outcome depends on positioning.  If you frame the coupon as a reward for engagement, then it may be perceived differently than as a pure discount &#8211; especially if it&#8217;s a one-time experiment to measure ROI.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Offering Discounts Through Social Media Is Bad Business for Nonprofit Organizations by Jasper Visser (@jaspervisser)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jasper Visser (@jaspervisser)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post Colleen, thanks.

In response to especially the title I&#039;d like to stress though that offering coupons might occasionally be Good Business, especially if you want to check on the ROI of your online marketing strategies. Do people visit more often if they get a tiny discount on Facebook for a special event? So, can we get people to visit us because of our Facebook efforts? Coupons can answer these very important questions.

(A &quot;free&quot; alternative is telling different entrances or starting hours to people at different platforms, although this might confuse some people.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post Colleen, thanks.</p>
<p>In response to especially the title I&#8217;d like to stress though that offering coupons might occasionally be Good Business, especially if you want to check on the ROI of your online marketing strategies. Do people visit more often if they get a tiny discount on Facebook for a special event? So, can we get people to visit us because of our Facebook efforts? Coupons can answer these very important questions.</p>
<p>(A &#8220;free&#8221; alternative is telling different entrances or starting hours to people at different platforms, although this might confuse some people.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Four Critical Reasons Why Nonprofit Organizations Must Not “Go Dark” on Social Media on Weekends by colleendilen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 01:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for sharing this, Lynda. This is an excellent tip!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for sharing this, Lynda. This is an excellent tip!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Four Critical Reasons Why Nonprofit Organizations Must Not “Go Dark” on Social Media on Weekends by Lynda Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynda Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 00:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thnx for this post Colleen. At the Australian Museum we have seven &quot;community managers&quot; from across the Museum that each are responsible foe one day. This includes Saturdays and Sundays where we use our Interpretive Officers who are working those days anyway. This system works really well and they always post interesting content that gets alot of fan interaction. Just a thought for other places who may be wondering how to cover seven days a week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thnx for this post Colleen. At the Australian Museum we have seven &#8220;community managers&#8221; from across the Museum that each are responsible foe one day. This includes Saturdays and Sundays where we use our Interpretive Officers who are working those days anyway. This system works really well and they always post interesting content that gets alot of fan interaction. Just a thought for other places who may be wondering how to cover seven days a week.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by Curation: Why the Special Exhibit Isn’t So Special Anymore (CASE STUDY) by colleendilen</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 03:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you very much for writing this comment, Steven. I think these are thoughtful, relevant points and they indeed belong on this page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for writing this comment, Steven. I think these are thoughtful, relevant points and they indeed belong on this page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by Curation: Why the Special Exhibit Isn’t So Special Anymore (CASE STUDY) by Steven Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 22:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We in the museum field have no one to blame but ourselves for the blockbuster phenomenon so revealingly discussed by Colleen.  While I have enjoyed every great, special and temporary exhibition I have seen over the years, in my roles as  a museum director, curator and trustee during the past four decades, I know from inside museums the pressure that is felt to get people through the front door.  This pressure largely comes from trustees.  The ranks of these &quot;fiduciaries&quot; are  dominated by businessmen (my gender designation is purposeful).  All too often these people look at numbers to assess success or failure.  Unfortunately, numbers do not always explain how effective or ineffective a museum is in its work.  Attendance figures offer a false measure of success.  Deciding how well a museum is doing by how many people visit is a lazy metric.  The emphasis on this outcome causes serious disruptions in how always scarce museum resources are allocated.  Unfortunately, unitl the governing bodies of museums accept the fact that the institutions for which they are responsible are NOT attractions ala Disney World and are NOT profit centers, ala Six Flags, we will be stuck on an exhausting and misguided treadmill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We in the museum field have no one to blame but ourselves for the blockbuster phenomenon so revealingly discussed by Colleen.  While I have enjoyed every great, special and temporary exhibition I have seen over the years, in my roles as  a museum director, curator and trustee during the past four decades, I know from inside museums the pressure that is felt to get people through the front door.  This pressure largely comes from trustees.  The ranks of these &#8220;fiduciaries&#8221; are  dominated by businessmen (my gender designation is purposeful).  All too often these people look at numbers to assess success or failure.  Unfortunately, numbers do not always explain how effective or ineffective a museum is in its work.  Attendance figures offer a false measure of success.  Deciding how well a museum is doing by how many people visit is a lazy metric.  The emphasis on this outcome causes serious disruptions in how always scarce museum resources are allocated.  Unfortunately, unitl the governing bodies of museums accept the fact that the institutions for which they are responsible are NOT attractions ala Disney World and are NOT profit centers, ala Six Flags, we will be stuck on an exhausting and misguided treadmill.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Death by Curation: Why the Special Exhibit Isn’t So Special Anymore (CASE STUDY) by colleendilen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[colleendilen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a very relevant question for museums, so thanks for asking! (Not to mention - this question itself is a big can of worms and may deserve its own post!) We do have data on &quot;free&quot; museums and they are not immune to the cycle outlined herein. In fact, their &quot;death by curation&quot; risk may be larger as they are publicly valuing (by ascribing an admission basis) their special exhibits more than their permanent collections and on-site experience.  

The average person visits a museum once every 19 months (this cycle is longer or shorter depending on the individual person and museum - but that&#039;s the US average). This average holds true whether visitors pay for the special exhibit or not. In other words, people will consider themselves visitors if they interact with free exhibits just as much as if they interact with paid exhibits...but the museum doesn&#039;t derive the same level of financial support. In other words, these museums may not be maximizing their paid visitation. (Of course, several museums have developed appropriations, endowments and sponsorships to subsidize this loss of earned income - and these contributed revenues may or may not effectively offset the earned revenue from ticket sales.  However, we often find evidence of price inelasticity in museum admission policies.  In other words, the volume of visitation to a museum may not be correspondingly responsive to a change in admission price...including free.  The implication of this finding for several museums has been that &quot;free&quot; does not necessarily equate to &quot;significantly more people.&quot;)

The bottom line of this post still holds true for &quot;free&quot; museums, and, more importantly, data suggests that social interaction is a far more critical component of visitor satisfaction than WHAT folks come to see (with&gt;what). Regardless of their respective admission policies, museums must strive to develop and maintain a reputation as a facilitator of high-quality interactions to remain relevant and viable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very relevant question for museums, so thanks for asking! (Not to mention &#8211; this question itself is a big can of worms and may deserve its own post!) We do have data on &#8220;free&#8221; museums and they are not immune to the cycle outlined herein. In fact, their &#8220;death by curation&#8221; risk may be larger as they are publicly valuing (by ascribing an admission basis) their special exhibits more than their permanent collections and on-site experience.  </p>
<p>The average person visits a museum once every 19 months (this cycle is longer or shorter depending on the individual person and museum &#8211; but that&#8217;s the US average). This average holds true whether visitors pay for the special exhibit or not. In other words, people will consider themselves visitors if they interact with free exhibits just as much as if they interact with paid exhibits&#8230;but the museum doesn&#8217;t derive the same level of financial support. In other words, these museums may not be maximizing their paid visitation. (Of course, several museums have developed appropriations, endowments and sponsorships to subsidize this loss of earned income &#8211; and these contributed revenues may or may not effectively offset the earned revenue from ticket sales.  However, we often find evidence of price inelasticity in museum admission policies.  In other words, the volume of visitation to a museum may not be correspondingly responsive to a change in admission price&#8230;including free.  The implication of this finding for several museums has been that &#8220;free&#8221; does not necessarily equate to &#8220;significantly more people.&#8221;)</p>
<p>The bottom line of this post still holds true for &#8220;free&#8221; museums, and, more importantly, data suggests that social interaction is a far more critical component of visitor satisfaction than WHAT folks come to see (with&gt;what). Regardless of their respective admission policies, museums must strive to develop and maintain a reputation as a facilitator of high-quality interactions to remain relevant and viable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Early Adopter Phase on Pinterest is Coming to an End (or, 5 Reasons for Museums to Get on Pinterest Right Now) by The Exhibition List</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Exhibition List]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 21:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may find this interesting http://museumtwo.blogspot.ca/2012/03/how-do-you-document-your-creative.html]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Death by Curation: Why the Special Exhibit Isn’t So Special Anymore (CASE STUDY) by E De Quesada</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E De Quesada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting analysis, and of course it is true that many museums have found themselves in a situation where they have to schedule blockbuster exhibitions to maintain growth on new members and earned revenue. 

Your position that these museums might be better off if they depended on regular museum  admission works for museums that incorporate general admission. However, there has also been a trend amongst some museums to do away with general admission. Those museums, in particular, depend on ticketed exhibitions.

Have you done any research on free admission museums? Do you know what is the impact  for free museums?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analysis, and of course it is true that many museums have found themselves in a situation where they have to schedule blockbuster exhibitions to maintain growth on new members and earned revenue. </p>
<p>Your position that these museums might be better off if they depended on regular museum  admission works for museums that incorporate general admission. However, there has also been a trend amongst some museums to do away with general admission. Those museums, in particular, depend on ticketed exhibitions.</p>
<p>Have you done any research on free admission museums? Do you know what is the impact  for free museums?</p>
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